Audio Podcast. 102: Rabbi Sandra Lawson on holding multiple truths at the same time, fighting for civil rights, and creating new narratives.

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Audio Podcast. 102: Rabbi Sandra Lawson on holding multiple truths at the same time, fighting for civil rights, and creating new narratives.

Stephanie G Wilson, PhD

Dec 10, 2025

This was my first conversation in my Being Jewish-American mini-series, in which I hope to explore more of the nuances of being Jewish, American, and an advocate for freedom and democracy. Keep your eyes out for additional conversations in this series.

In this conversation, Rabbi Sandra Lawson discusses the intersection of Jewish identity, liberation theology, and social justice. She emphasizes the importance of building relationships across different communities, particularly between Jewish and Black communities, and the need for a more inclusive understanding of Jewish values in activism. The conversation also touches on the complexities of current Jewish identity, the impact of whiteness on Jewish experiences, and the necessity of having difficult conversations about race and identity within the Jewish community.

My fascinating conversation with

Rabbi Sandra Lawson

leads to a second conversation that I’ll have with her and

Debra Shushan

(I’m talking with her today, Wednesday, about a deep divide in the American Jewish community). The next conversation with

Rabbi Sandra Lawson

and

Debra Shushan

will delve into the discussion of Jews and Whiteness. I’ll let you know as soon as I schedule that.

Tune in live today at 1pm ET for my conversation with Debra. I’ll post our video almost immediately and our audio this week.

Please let me know in the comments if there are others you want to hear from or can introduce me to.

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