Old white man here, and I think that Joe Biden should pass the torch to Kamala Harris. Even if he would be ready to go on day one I don't believe he can do the job for four more years. I believe that Kamala Harris can and will defeat tRump. Joe's lapses are telling us that he should be letting someone younger take over. That's just the opinion of one old white man.
Y’all sound like Blue Maga it’s unbelievable. Is the bar in hell? Joe Biden is ALREADY going to lose to Trump.
In 2020, he had MASSIVE leads in the polls, in some states he was winning with double digits. It was only because of our rigged election system (gerrymandering, electoral college, restricted voter access) that he won with the slim margin of victory he did back then.
Now we see the writing on the wall. He’s down 9% points on average and after the debate he got worse not better…. And y’all are still ridin with Genociden Biden.
Don’t forget it’s because of a GENOCIDE which HE could have ended and which HE is arming and funding, that caused him to lose the Arab-American and much of the youth vote.
Finally, his age is unavoidable. Call me ageist, call me ageist, but I call it elder abuse to put that man through another debate with trump when we all know his faculties are failing… which is absolutely the MAIN reason why he is down 10% points with independents
You’re on a sinking ship and refusing to jump to a better ship insisting that the one you’re on is fine. You are all delusional. In complete denial.
Denial is a river in Egypt… and it takes a lot of time and energy to cross it. But if y’all don’t pull your fingers out of your ass and jump ship before it’s too late. Trumps victory will be not only on Biden’s ego, but on you too.
(PS literally every serious call for Biden to step down is usually followed by Kamala as the next obvious choice. So I have no idea where this poster gets off on pull the racist/sexist card. Literally grasping at smoke for a semblance of sanity when there is no sanity voting for a man who is LITERALLY SENILE)
I find that the people who are panicking the most are the NeverTrumpers who feel no sense of loyalty to Democratic issues or, pretty much, Democrats in general. I love the way they are feeling so entitled that they feel it necessary to to tell the Democrats what they should do - as if Democrats care.
We like President Biden because he's “our guy” and his issues are “our issues” - it's as simple as that. If the Republican “Never Trumpers” want to support our guy to achieve their goal - fine. But once they start making demands, they obvs need to be reminded.
The whole “Democrat Party” juvenile name-calling by Republicans didn't originate with Trump and virtually everyone associated with the Republicans in the 21st century engaged in that disrespect. If that's the case with you, Mr or Mrs NeverTrumper, - dont even bother. We really have no interest in what you have to say.
Will women vote to enslave themselves, their daughters, granddaughters and nieces? Will they vote to make childbirth deadly again?
Yes, they will. Because they think the rules apply to those other unwashed people. They know they can force the system to give them the abortion care they might need. Or they have the resources to receive it abroad.
Okay. All I have to say is #JasmineCrockett2028! She said exactly what I’ve been saying. We need to have the country’s back and we do that by having Biden’s back. Riding with Biden 2024 can mean a new Journey with Jasmine 2028! ❤️💙🤍
I am not a white man and I think Biden should retire. I am 73 years old. I know in fact how aging takes a toll. I will only vote Democrat in November because I know what is at stake but I think young voters will stay home or skip the presidential race on their ballot or vote for Trump in protest (god help us)! Also lots of folks will tell you a vote for Biden is really a vote for Harris and they feel they are being played. The old switcheroo. It was hubris for Biden to run again. He is not indispensable. I will vote Democrat but I am very worried it will not be enough and even before November I think Biden may, as we all will, face the fact he cannot stop the march of time. There is no frame of mind or little pill or miracle cure. He is mortal just like the rest of us.
Thanks for your response. I could add that perhaps Kamala just wasn't ready for years ago and it's possible she wasn't a good matchup against Trump. Biden won so that's sort of proof. And that was the most important thing. This just may be her time as she's spent 4 years at the highest levels of executive experience. I think that's quite an elevation in her game! She probably make one of the best we've had and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that. In fact I know a very many knowledgeable thoughtful people who are completely engaged who agree she'd be best at this point. Michael Moore being one of them. That's a pretty great endorsement
That's an interesting observation that I didn't catch! I don't think it's wrong to have a conversation. Michael moore. White male. But with impeccable progressive credentials, had a post about kamala taking over. He says what a lot of people think and I bet they're probably women who feel the same way. Tell me if I'm wrong. He started the piece by saying, 'the national committee is trying to tell us"don't believe you're lying eyes" . We all know what we saw on stage.' I think it's a function of folks perceiving it in a different way than others. I agree with Moore that the folks who are saying it was just one bad debate performance are being a little bit disingenuous. I would encourage everybody to read that piece. I'm trying to collect views of folks I respect and formulate my own idea. Of course we are not privy to a lot of things that go on. What was the context and decisions of the Biden team leading up to the debate that allowed it to happen. It did not happen in a vacuum. So don't gaslight our own side! We know what we saw that night. It wasn't just a bad debate performance. Let's t's not be like a cult and decide that there's only one person that can beat Donald Trump. Or that if you question Biden you're not part of the team anymore. Or that in light of new information we're not going to change our minds. If that's the case we're in pretty bad shape. Any of the Democrats would be a fine choice. I think there are a lot of upsides to Kamala taking the Torch!
So why not take the dissenting members of our own side and engage in a conversation in a quiet family type way away from the company 😜 I think as long as we gel around the person selected we will be fine. I don't think you lose any voters if Kamala takes over. Anybody who won't vote for her wasn't going to vote for Joe. She will probably pick up a lot more votes and drive enthusiasm! And I suppose the funding machine in the ballot etc etc would be an easier task if she took over.
If something happens and Joe declines in any way between now and the election it could be so much more consequential at that point. Looking forward to the community's
The big bad news about Pres. Biden’s age/performance dwarfs maga king’s long-standing performance of showing us who he really is. (It ain’t good news, but it’s constant) Is nobody in the media or his own party willing to demand that dt step aside or get him where he belongs-jail. We are watching a slow-but-steadily-moving maga coup.
Oh, I can’t stand this all these people whining about Joe Biden‘s age. Just give it up and figure out a different place to put your energy… for God sakes.
Old white man here, and I think that Joe Biden should pass the torch to Kamala Harris. Even if he would be ready to go on day one I don't believe he can do the job for four more years. I believe that Kamala Harris can and will defeat tRump. Joe's lapses are telling us that he should be letting someone younger take over. That's just the opinion of one old white man.
Y’all sound like Blue Maga it’s unbelievable. Is the bar in hell? Joe Biden is ALREADY going to lose to Trump.
In 2020, he had MASSIVE leads in the polls, in some states he was winning with double digits. It was only because of our rigged election system (gerrymandering, electoral college, restricted voter access) that he won with the slim margin of victory he did back then.
Now we see the writing on the wall. He’s down 9% points on average and after the debate he got worse not better…. And y’all are still ridin with Genociden Biden.
Don’t forget it’s because of a GENOCIDE which HE could have ended and which HE is arming and funding, that caused him to lose the Arab-American and much of the youth vote.
Finally, his age is unavoidable. Call me ageist, call me ageist, but I call it elder abuse to put that man through another debate with trump when we all know his faculties are failing… which is absolutely the MAIN reason why he is down 10% points with independents
You’re on a sinking ship and refusing to jump to a better ship insisting that the one you’re on is fine. You are all delusional. In complete denial.
Denial is a river in Egypt… and it takes a lot of time and energy to cross it. But if y’all don’t pull your fingers out of your ass and jump ship before it’s too late. Trumps victory will be not only on Biden’s ego, but on you too.
(PS literally every serious call for Biden to step down is usually followed by Kamala as the next obvious choice. So I have no idea where this poster gets off on pull the racist/sexist card. Literally grasping at smoke for a semblance of sanity when there is no sanity voting for a man who is LITERALLY SENILE)
I find that the people who are panicking the most are the NeverTrumpers who feel no sense of loyalty to Democratic issues or, pretty much, Democrats in general. I love the way they are feeling so entitled that they feel it necessary to to tell the Democrats what they should do - as if Democrats care.
We like President Biden because he's “our guy” and his issues are “our issues” - it's as simple as that. If the Republican “Never Trumpers” want to support our guy to achieve their goal - fine. But once they start making demands, they obvs need to be reminded.
The whole “Democrat Party” juvenile name-calling by Republicans didn't originate with Trump and virtually everyone associated with the Republicans in the 21st century engaged in that disrespect. If that's the case with you, Mr or Mrs NeverTrumper, - dont even bother. We really have no interest in what you have to say.
Will women vote to enslave themselves, their daughters, granddaughters and nieces? Will they vote to make childbirth deadly again?
Yes, they will. Because they think the rules apply to those other unwashed people. They know they can force the system to give them the abortion care they might need. Or they have the resources to receive it abroad.
All this to look pious.
Love you love you love you!! Get thum Joe and do it for us!!!!
Okay. All I have to say is #JasmineCrockett2028! She said exactly what I’ve been saying. We need to have the country’s back and we do that by having Biden’s back. Riding with Biden 2024 can mean a new Journey with Jasmine 2028! ❤️💙🤍
Not just white, but white MEN. A Harris-Whitmer ticket would be fabulous!
I guess I'm an old white man. So is Mehdi Hasan? So are all the young people out there who are furious that these are their choices?
I am not a white man and I think Biden should retire. I am 73 years old. I know in fact how aging takes a toll. I will only vote Democrat in November because I know what is at stake but I think young voters will stay home or skip the presidential race on their ballot or vote for Trump in protest (god help us)! Also lots of folks will tell you a vote for Biden is really a vote for Harris and they feel they are being played. The old switcheroo. It was hubris for Biden to run again. He is not indispensable. I will vote Democrat but I am very worried it will not be enough and even before November I think Biden may, as we all will, face the fact he cannot stop the march of time. There is no frame of mind or little pill or miracle cure. He is mortal just like the rest of us.
Read Project 2025 !
Thanks for your response. I could add that perhaps Kamala just wasn't ready for years ago and it's possible she wasn't a good matchup against Trump. Biden won so that's sort of proof. And that was the most important thing. This just may be her time as she's spent 4 years at the highest levels of executive experience. I think that's quite an elevation in her game! She probably make one of the best we've had and I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks that. In fact I know a very many knowledgeable thoughtful people who are completely engaged who agree she'd be best at this point. Michael Moore being one of them. That's a pretty great endorsement
That's an interesting observation that I didn't catch! I don't think it's wrong to have a conversation. Michael moore. White male. But with impeccable progressive credentials, had a post about kamala taking over. He says what a lot of people think and I bet they're probably women who feel the same way. Tell me if I'm wrong. He started the piece by saying, 'the national committee is trying to tell us"don't believe you're lying eyes" . We all know what we saw on stage.' I think it's a function of folks perceiving it in a different way than others. I agree with Moore that the folks who are saying it was just one bad debate performance are being a little bit disingenuous. I would encourage everybody to read that piece. I'm trying to collect views of folks I respect and formulate my own idea. Of course we are not privy to a lot of things that go on. What was the context and decisions of the Biden team leading up to the debate that allowed it to happen. It did not happen in a vacuum. So don't gaslight our own side! We know what we saw that night. It wasn't just a bad debate performance. Let's t's not be like a cult and decide that there's only one person that can beat Donald Trump. Or that if you question Biden you're not part of the team anymore. Or that in light of new information we're not going to change our minds. If that's the case we're in pretty bad shape. Any of the Democrats would be a fine choice. I think there are a lot of upsides to Kamala taking the Torch!
So why not take the dissenting members of our own side and engage in a conversation in a quiet family type way away from the company 😜 I think as long as we gel around the person selected we will be fine. I don't think you lose any voters if Kamala takes over. Anybody who won't vote for her wasn't going to vote for Joe. She will probably pick up a lot more votes and drive enthusiasm! And I suppose the funding machine in the ballot etc etc would be an easier task if she took over.
If something happens and Joe declines in any way between now and the election it could be so much more consequential at that point. Looking forward to the community's
thoughts. Thanks. We're in this together.
The big media are telling me to arm myself. I assume they're doing it themselves.
The big bad news about Pres. Biden’s age/performance dwarfs maga king’s long-standing performance of showing us who he really is. (It ain’t good news, but it’s constant) Is nobody in the media or his own party willing to demand that dt step aside or get him where he belongs-jail. We are watching a slow-but-steadily-moving maga coup.
Be very afraid.
BTW, I’m a lifelong Democrat. Work for and vote for President Biden.
Oh, I’ll vote for Biden to be sure.
Oh, I can’t stand this all these people whining about Joe Biden‘s age. Just give it up and figure out a different place to put your energy… for God sakes.