In this episode of 'Freedom Over Fascism,' recorded live on Monday, May 12, 2025, host Stephanie Wilson speaks with Jason Sattler, also known as LOLGOP. They discuss the interplay of hope and anger in activism, the importance of informed action, and the challenges and strategies of fighting fascism in America. The conversation delves into the significance of mobilizing 3.5% of the population in political change, the role of good information and imagination in sustaining activism, and the importance of breaking down silos to unify efforts against authoritarian threats. Jason also emphasizes the urgency of focusing on key issues like saving Medicaid from proposed budget cuts, while Stephanie shares insights on the evolving landscape of media and public engagement.
PODCAST. Jason Sattler (LOLGOP) on anger, hope, reframing, and mobilization
Audio recording of Substack Live on 5/12/25
May 13, 2025

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Freedom Over Fascism is hosted by Dr. Stephanie Gerber Wilson. She talks with people who power political change and fight for freedom in public life: activists, experts, office-holders, and academics. We help our activist audience embrace Michelle Obama’s call for people to DO SOMETHING. Each episode provides concrete calls to action for activists to promote freedom in their area. Founded January 2023. Please consider upgrading to a paid subscription today if you have the means.
We talk to authors, experts, activists, historians, and officials who sound the alarm and work to build freedom over fascism. Together we’ll discover what it takes to win in parts of America dominated by MAGA extremists.
Freedom Over Fascism is hosted by Dr. Stephanie Gerber Wilson. She talks with people who power political change and fight for freedom in public life: activists, experts, office-holders, and academics. We help our activist audience embrace Michelle Obama’s call for people to DO SOMETHING. Each episode provides concrete calls to action for activists to promote freedom in their area. Founded January 2023. Please consider upgrading to a paid subscription today if you have the means.
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