Walter Rhein invites me to talk with him and Will Fullwood

I had the absolute honor of having a conversation with

Walter Rhein and Will Fullwood where we talked about where we are in this moment, how scary it is, how long it might take to get past it and how we all have to taking actions of caring and hope in our own way.

I’m going to post this as a podcast and I hope you watch here or listen later, because this is one of the most real, authentic, hard, and connective conversations I’ve had in a long time. We need to keep holding space to reckon with the past and imagine a future, we need to understand that we’re talking about a lot of suffering before we get there, and we need to hang together where we find our community to keep sane and to make positive change in the world.

I want to thank Walter for inviting me into this conversation, and both him and Will for such an honest look at where we are now, collectively and individually.

I’ll be finding opportunities to continue the conversation with both of them, separately or together, to continue to human together in ways that help us take the actions needed for caring and hope.

Here’s the video: